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From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"

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  • From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Tue, Apr 01 2008, 9:07 AM

    Hi all ,here it is...

    Profane and Divine

    By SUZANNE VEGA March 31, 2008,  7:17pm,TNYT

    Well, let’s see. A blog about “the creative process.” This is a good time to begin this as I have just gotten off the road from promoting “Beauty & Crime,” which was my first album in six years. I had a lot of ideas during that time and not everything made it onto that record, so now I am beginning to splash around and see what’s up for this next one.

    You should know that I am usually wary of sharing ideas in progress. I go over and over the lyrics until they feel just right to me, and this can be a very irritating process. I am also a little superstitious — if you talk too much or reveal too much, the spell could fall flat and the song won’t work. However, I have also shared songs, gone back and redone them, had them turn out much better and then forgotten about the earlier drafts. So it happens all different ways.

    But listen, readers, don’t steal my ideas, please. I will track you down.

    So far, the titles for new songs run like this: “Daddy Is White,” about race in America today; “Avatar,” about aging and spirituality; “Profanity,” about why profanity is good; “Back Alley View,” basically a summary of our last tour; “Pale Cowboy,” about a songwriter I don’t know very well.

    Ideas I had left over from before: “Persephone’s Mom,” about a runaway teenager; “Jacob and the Angel,” about that particular wrestling match from The Bible; “The Ballad of Lynndie England,” although a quick Wikipedia read shows me that there have been a few visiting that subject before me; “The Children in the Trees,” about the tsunami of several years ago.

    I think “Daddy Is White” is the most developed as it actually has three verses and a chorus. I could even say it’s finished, sort of. So I won’t reveal it here, since it’s mostly finished already.

    The most developed one after that is “Profanity,” which begins:

    Profanity is my good friend.
    It lies in wait beyond the end
    Of civilized discussion and
    Whatever else you have on hand.


    Of course, when I sing it live, it should have a string of profanity between “whatever” and “else” for it to really work.

    The other one I like is “Avatar,” which begins:

    As though you could tell
    This nut from her shell.


    I like the original idea of an avatar, an idea from the Hindu that means “the incarnation of a divine being” — the Sanskrit word literally means “to descend.” How I mean this song is, If you don’t like my actual aging face that you see, you can kiss my avatar. Which sounds rude, but means, You can respect the spirit in me, if you can’t admire the flesh. And you can also go on Second Life and interact with my avatar there, which will never age, if you are so inclined.

    Well, that’s all I have to report this week. But that’s how I work — a bunch of songs at a time, all of them rolling around the inside of me clamoring for attention. Sometimes they end up relating to one another — a verse from one joins the melody of another other. Sometimes a song from a few years ago suddenly comes springing back at me with surprising vigor.

    We’ll see. Hope this album doesn’t take six years to finish, or this blog will end up being as long as “War and Peace.”




    Regards Greg 

    लावदाय_लवयाद
  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
    22679 in reply to 22677

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     Tue, Apr 01 2008, 11:44 AM

    Thank you so much Greg for posting this! Apart from a real treat to journey with Suzanne towards her next album, it’s also a wonderful avenue for some great publicity for Suzanne to contribute to this NYT blog! I noticed there were like over 130 online guests to the Undertow when I signed in. Maybe more Towies can also post a comment to what Suzanne wrote on the Measure for Measure blog. I think mine is somewhere in the late 20s.

    (currently back in S'pore for a month before returning to Kenya)


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  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Tue, Apr 01 2008, 3:12 PM
    You beat me to it, Greg. Thanks for posting and letting everyone know about it. It's a really great read.
  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Tue, Apr 01 2008, 3:36 PM

    Thanks Greg!

    Great news indeed, and nice stanzas Suzanne!! Thanks for sharing!

    I'm sure the touch will stay and prevail, so don't worry,  I guess your next album songs/lyrics (for the the coming new one) will be as wonderful as usual!:)

    as for me, it's a bit sad that now I have been so swamped with daily (teaching) work here in Budapest that now for me there is no time to compose any new songs, writing lyrics ... (and writing the language book at weekends, then the interview book, and only then my music and lyrics...). I know the feeling of 'postponed' songs ... As I am also into photography, I feel that photos, and special moments 'stored',  may also be good sources of future song 'fragments'...  

    Interestingly, earlier I also combined some separate verses, so they had been 'independent'... Later 'somehow' they came together and formed new songs! It was interesting to put them together, or I would say, how I finally suddenly realized which ones actually belonged together...It was also strange, but later I got used to that. First I thought, in a way it was ' just sacrificing  4-line great poems, to turn them into a song '.... But then I felt it differently.  I guess in the future, when I compose new material, I may do the same. We'll see... Pictures can breathe moments, or initiate an idea (especially when they are good and artistic), so Suzanne, knowing your good sense of photography, with a bit of 'luck', we all will possibly enjoy your new material much sooner than the mentioned  6 years... Wishing good work, and special moments! And great images from the past, - and present!

     best wishes, Zoli      

     

  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Wed, Apr 02 2008, 5:21 AM

    Fascinating stuff indeed, thanks Greg!

    As a sort of “making of” coming ahead of the finished artwork, it is great to actually see the album grow in Suzanne’s mind - and therefore in our minds as well. Maybe this even helps Suzanne and makes the development of the new album more organic. (For example: When you explain something to a person, you almost always get a better understanding of the subject yourself.)

    And this blog helps to reduce the waiting time. It’s like an advent calendar for her new album.

  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Wed, Apr 02 2008, 5:48 AM

    Greg, thank you. You made my day

    It's very insightful and hillarious! 

     

     

     


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    - Yes, i am. I'm your guardian angel.
    - Amazing!I've never believed in that.Am i dead?
    - No. You're just hallucinating.
  • Re: From The New York Times Suzanne' s blog- March 31, 2008: "Profane and Divine"
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     Wed, Apr 02 2008, 11:28 AM

    Time rolls on and Suzanne continues to inspire me. Thanks for posting this blog.


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