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    19012

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     Wed, Jul 18 2007, 2:12 PM
    a song "about alcohol and the damage done": suzanne wrote on her nov. 27, 2006 message. yes, but it's also a very close and personal comment on this particular issue. 
     
    with an atmospheric beginning and ending, the song is firmly rooted on suzanne's voice and stark acoustic guitar work, and on a cello line that sounds like a lament, and that, to me, draws a question mark by itself.
     
    "private goes public" was like a "tail" (suzanne dixit) on "99.9F". it didn't end the album, as it was more like a p.s. that reflected upon its essence. i don't know how suzanne would refer to "obvious question", but it sure doesn't end the new album either (it 'ends' with "anniversary") and the line between private & public gets candidly and boldly crossed.
     
    it's as if this song asks this other maybe not so obvious question, which nonetheless, to me, reflects upon the whole album: how long does every line remain safely drawn? the line between beauty & crime, for one? or that between passion & love? reality & dreams? vanity & beauty? and even at angel's door, a line has been crossed, since "inside his brain, it's never the same". 
     
    "i am sitting over here, the line is safely drawn, the obvious question is, how long does this go on?" 
     

    chance is the only thing that doesn't happen by chance
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    19014 in reply to 19012

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     Wed, Jul 18 2007, 2:26 PM
    I love your literary elucidations, Fátima.  From my perception, I nevertheless worry about Suzanne´s personal relationship with grapes.

    Lefty

    "...when the armies of emotion
    go out to fight..."
  • Re: obvious question
    19129 in reply to 19014

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     Mon, Jul 30 2007, 2:36 PM

    Private Goes Public is like one of my favorite Suzanne Vega songs and in my opinion Obvious Question has a very similar essence. That's why I love it so much too. EdgeBoston called Obvious Question "a short meditation" and that's also how I feel about this song. But I wish it weren't released only with the Japanese edition of the album or via I-tunes. There are some countries which doesn't have access to i-tunes, (yes, like mine).

     luv;

    Zeynep

    p.s: I forgot to add, this song also reminds me of "50/50 Chance" a lot. Maybe because of the violin (that's violin,right?: ) 
  • Re: obvious question
    19138 in reply to 19129

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     Tue, Jul 31 2007, 1:50 PM

    [excerpt taken from the interview in "urgent whispers", regarding "99.9F" and "private goes public"]

    [me] "The album ends with two acoustic ballads, which give a feeling of release and lightness to its closure.

    [suzanne] "Private Goes Public" should be considered a separate song. It was meant like a little tail, like a bonus.

    [me] Why haven't you released it here in America?

    [suzanne] Because my record company asked me for a bonus track for Europe, so if we released it here in America then it couldn't be the bonus track for Europe (laughs). And I was going to take it out. In the beginning, it was going to be in between "Fat Man & Dancing Girl" and "(If You Were) In My Movie". That's where it was going to be the thirteenth song of the album, and I took it out because I felt that it was another sad waltz, which I had three or four of, and I didn't want it to have so many sad waltzes. So I felt that it weighed the album into being heavy inside and I wanted it to be more uplifting."

     

    zeynep, in her november message, last year, suzanne presented 12 songs, "obvious question" included. i brought up "private goes public" to this discussion because i feel something similar to what suzanne  described to me above happened to the song we're discussing. they both fitted their respective albums but "weighed" them too much if they were part of the tracklist.

    and what i meant to say in my first post is that i feel they end up by having a similar function: they reflect upon the whole of the albums they belong to ( "a short meditation" to each of them sounds fine to me too). isn't "99.9F" an album where a lot of what had been private goes public? and isn't "beauty & crime", among other things, about that '&', that line in between things that we wonder how long will remain safely drawn?

    oh, and by the way, i think it's a cello, but i may be wrong. Smile

    love, fátima

     


    chance is the only thing that doesn't happen by chance
  • Re: obvious question
    19151 in reply to 19138

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     Wed, Aug 01 2007, 3:34 AM
    fatima:

    oh, and by the way, i think it's a cello, but i may be wrong.

    Actually you're right, it sounds more like a cello

    :) 

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    19158 in reply to 19151

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     Wed, Aug 01 2007, 10:49 AM

    actually, dear zeynep, i think we're both right. it's a violin *&* a cello and they're both playing the same melody line, in different tones, of course (the violin higher and the cello lower). listen closely. Smile

    love, fátima 


    chance is the only thing that doesn't happen by chance
  • Re: obvious question
    19163 in reply to 19158

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     Wed, Aug 01 2007, 4:55 PM
    What a beautiful new portrait photo you have chosen, Fátima!Big Smile

    I haven´t scrutinised the recording again but the instrument could be a viola, which is midway between a cello and a violin.Cool

    Lefty

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    go out to fight..."
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    19265 in reply to 19129

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     Sun, Aug 05 2007, 10:01 AM
    zeynep:

    Private Goes Public is like one of my favorite Suzanne Vega songs and in my opinion Obvious Question has a very similar essence. That's why I love it so much too. EdgeBoston called Obvious Question "a short meditation" and that's also how I feel about this song. But I wish it weren't released only with the Japanese edition of the album or via I-tunes. There are some countries which doesn't have access to i-tunes, (yes, like mine).

     luv;

    Zeynep

    p.s: I forgot to add, this song also reminds me of "50/50 Chance" a lot. Maybe because of the violin (that's violin,right?: ) 

    I do agree with you: even the structure of the song and the way it is featured on the album (as a bonus track) makes similarities with PGP.

    It's a shame the bonus track policy attempts the fans to have access to Suzanne's great songs, like for "Golden"...  

  • Re: obvious question
    19662 in reply to 19012

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     Tue, Aug 21 2007, 12:52 PM

    Since I'm in the U.S. and my copy of Beauty and Crime doesn't include this song, is there some way for me to get the lyrics to "Obvious Question"?  I will probably end up ordering the Import version of Beauty and Crime as well (I have three versions of Retrospective!), but meanwhile I would really like to see the lyrics to "Obvious Question."

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    19706 in reply to 19662

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     Wed, Aug 22 2007, 12:44 PM

    Hey there;

    I couldn't find the lyrics on the internet so I tried to decipher it myself. There may be some mistakes, so forgive me :)

    Obvious Question

    “I am sitting over here.

    The line is safely drawn.

    The obvious question is

    how long does this go on

     

    Alcohol danced upon his nerves,

    played upon his skin,

    made him mad inside,

    broke everything within.

     

    And now, it does the same to me.

    Needle points a fire

    (???).. around my neck.

    The spirits take the man.

    Leave behind a/the reck

     

    I am sitting over here.

    The line is safely drawn.

    The obvious question is

    how long does this go on”

     

    best;

    Zeynep

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    19707 in reply to 19706

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     Wed, Aug 22 2007, 1:59 PM

    almost right, zeynep. Smile here are the lyrics as they appear on the japanese insert (not on the booklet, which is the same as the international edition) included on the japanese edition of "beauty & crime":

     

    Obvious Question

     

    "I am sitting over here

    the line is safely drawn

    the obvious question is

    how long does this go on?

     

    alcohol danced upon his nerves

    played upon his skin

    made him mad inside

    broke everything within

     

    and now it does the same to me

    in needlepoints of fire

    wreathed around my neck

    the spirits take the man

    and leave behind a wreck

     

    I am sitting over here

    the line is safely drawn

    the obvious question is

    how long does this go on?"

     

    the insert doesn't give any info about the musicians or instruments used, although it's 'obvious' suzanne sings and plays acoustic guitar. i'd say there is some programming at the beginning and end of it and the use of a cello and a violin. and since this song seems to have been recorded during the "beauty & crime" sessions the musicians credited as playing these instruments on other songs must have played on this one as well. but this is just a guess, so confirmation or correction would be appreciated. 

    thanks in advance, fátima

     


    chance is the only thing that doesn't happen by chance
  • Re: obvious question
    19728 in reply to 19707

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     Wed, Aug 22 2007, 5:43 PM
    Interesting thoughts indeed, Fatima! 

    I can't think of a place in B&C, where Obvious Question could fit in. I agree, it stands as a reflection outside every other songs on the album. So as an epilogue at the end would be the only way to put it. But for me it's difficult to listen to it after Anniversary. With Anniversary, all is said and done. Until now, I have always listened to Obvious Question separately at another time. But it's nice (and important for me) to have this song. 

    Some day, we can put together a whole album out of bonus tracks. It's sad that these songs aren't available to all Towies. 
  • Re: obvious question
    19888 in reply to 19707

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     Sun, Aug 26 2007, 6:00 PM

    Thanks so much for the lyrics to this song, which I still haven't heard!  I'll have to get the import I guess.

    Interesting lyrics.  Given other things Suzanne has said, are we to assume that "he" is Suzanne's brother?

  • Re: obvious question
    19889 in reply to 19888

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     Sun, Aug 26 2007, 6:08 PM
    P.S. -- As soon as I asked that last (obvious?) question, it occurred to me that perhaps the question itself -- arguably inappropriate -- is one of those troubling blurrings of the "line" between "private and public" (I liked your analysis Fatima!).
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    19899 in reply to 19889

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     Mon, Aug 27 2007, 2:11 PM
    I posted a transcript of the lyrics on 3 July in the original B&C thread in the Songs folder.  The transcript is my own but sine dubio 100% accurate (I hope).  OQ can also be bought from iTunes for around $1.

    Lefty

    "...when the armies of emotion
    go out to fight..."
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