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beauty & crime: an intuitive preview

Last post Fri, Jun 01 2007, 12:34 PM by fatima. 6 replies.
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  • beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
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     Mon, May 21 2007, 2:32 PM
    "love is the only thing that matters"
    in "ludlow street"
     
    i wrote the following on november 29, 2006:
     
    "i guess i may be way off but i feel that what really comes through these songs [in "beauty & crime"] is the feeling of love, in a wide meaning: love of a city, of its spirit and people, and of a memory of how things used to be; love of family; love of freedom, especially spiritual freedom; love of oneself and others as the "job" in life, and the awareness that, even so, love is not enough to keep suffering and pain at bay. i'll stop now before i fall flat on my face, if i haven't already. anyway, this is just an intuition, but i feel it very strongly and in a way i've never felt before in suzanne's music."
     
    and i also wrote this recently:
     
    "i feel this might be an album of contrasts and a very eclectic one in terms of sound. in those elements, and in their daring stance, it might be close, in spirit, to "99.9F degrees". / "99.9F degrees literally pulled the rug from beneath your feet (don't know for sure if there is such an expression in english), stretching the limits and giving you no certainty of what to expect. "beauty & crime" might not be so literal, but i feel all those factors will be there. i, for one, must say that i love going through a recording that claims all this for itself." 
      
    do i own the cd? no. have i heard it in its entirety? no. but i still stand by all my words, especially after having heard most of the songs live. and the ones i haven't heard, namely "bound" and "as you are now", because of their subject matter, only seem to reinforce my intuition.
     
    more ideas: new york is more than anything a transverse theme; suzanne has never addressed love (the "job" in life, as she has put it) like this before; in terms of lyrics, as a whole, i don't think they've ever been as concise, with close attention to internal rhymes and metaphors; and melodically this is a treasure: the melodies are so good that they slip under your skin right away.
     
    and in "anniversary" suzanne has again changed the last verse. the last stanza reads like this now (love the openness that will close this album):
     
    "Mark the month and all its anniversaries
    Put away the draft of all your eulogies
    Clear the way for all your private memories 
    They live upon each corner
    Live on every street.
    Make the time for all your possibilities
    They live on every street."
     
    take this post as you like. if you can go hear these songs live (pay close attention to "ludlow street" and "angel's doorway") and make the time for all their possibilities.
     
    love, fátima

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  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
    18008 in reply to 17932

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     Mon, May 28 2007, 1:13 PM
    more ideas/part 2: one of the things that is really outstanding about the songs in "beauty & crime" is their incredible plasticity. "unbound" will probably show it the most, but all the songs have this element and, because they have it at their root (just acoustic guitar and vocals), they themselves ask for the arrangement or musical treatment that best makes this core element shine through, from the inside out.
     
    i believe this is an intrinsic quality of every vega song, regardless of their musical outcome, but here it all just feels so right, as if suzanne did right by her songs and they did right by her, if it makes any sense.
     

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  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
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     Thu, May 31 2007, 3:02 PM
    more ideas/part 3: i was at the movies yesterday and i was struck by a sentence someone said during a trailer. the movie being advertized was "shortbus" and i might take the sentence out of its context, but it's not the movie i'll be relating it to. 
     
    one of the characters in this movie says the following: "people come to new york to be forgiven". as i've written here before, in "beauty & crime", new york is, to me, the landscape that cuts through it and inspires and reflects everything. it's a character as well, of course, but one that permeates all the others, like a vein. but this is a very real landscape, not an abstract or a mental one, like "the wide flat land" in (again) "99.9F degrees".
     
    my connection between these two albums comes also from the feeling that, in both, and as a whole, their respective characters lack something in a similar way: a sense of relief and a spiritual elevation, which they struggle for, and for the most part fail to find on "99.9F degrees", and which they find, on the new record, mostly reflected through the vessel that is new york, with "her beauty and her crime".
     
     

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  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
    18051 in reply to 18048

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     Thu, May 31 2007, 3:51 PM
    ps: i'd say the characters in "beauty & crime" also find a sense of healing for themselves, reflected through the one slowly rising through the city, in every corner, in every street.

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  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
    18071 in reply to 18048

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     Fri, Jun 01 2007, 10:00 AM

    fátima:
    ... this is a very real landscape, not an abstract or a mental one, like "the wide flat land" in (again) "99.9F degrees".

    Interesting insight, Fatima. I was thinking the same thing after hearing "Zephyr and I": Many of her songs emanate from Suzanne's incredibly fertile imagination (and those are many of her best songs), and others such as "Ironbound" come from close observation of her environment. You could argue that a few, such as "Neighborhood Girls," come from both. But from what I've heard, it looks as this song will have a very strong sense of place, and maybe of time and specific people as well.

    I guess we can all discuss once the album comes out why this is. Is it from all the losses she and her city have undergone starting with 9/11, a sense of mortality, or just a time in her life when it makes sense to look around and take stock?

    Either way, I can't wait to hear the whole thing. 

  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
    18072 in reply to 18008

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     Fri, Jun 01 2007, 10:14 AM

    Fatima:  You remarked on the "incredibly plasticity" of the "Beauty & Crime" songs.  While plasticity can be either a compliment or insult, depending upon how the term is used, I really don't think that it can be applied to many of Vega's songs - they're too "real" or "visceral" to be classifed thusly.  Perhaps something like "Golden", but to most of her songs - no.  However, it is a term that fascinates me, and I would like to understand exactly what it was that you meant.

    Cheers,

    Milo/Will

  • Re: beauty & crime: an intuitive preview
    18076 in reply to 18072

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     Fri, Jun 01 2007, 12:34 PM
    hi bob and milo,
     
    bob, i agree with what you say about "zephyr & i". i believe you can also find that "very strong sense of place, and maybe of time and specific people", as you put it, in "ludlow street", which i believe you have already heard. if you think of "angel's doorway" and "anniversary" it is there too. and it is there as well even in songs like "bound" and "as you are now". these songs are like very real and sharp snapshots of real people, in real places, at specific times.
     
    you ask why this is. maybe a combination of what you suggest could be a starting point to explain it. also "anniversary" was the very first song suzanne wrote for this album. it was triggered by something very real and in its lyrics runs this desire to really do real things, if you get my meaning: "watch for daily braveries / notice newfound courtesies / finger sudden legacies" and so on. so maybe it all started here but, again, this is just an intuition of mine.
     
    milo, i see your point but i didn't mean it like that. by plasticity i mean the songs' ability to be moulded, to sustain any musical metamorphosis, without ever losing their spirit, if you will. and it is because "they're too "real" or "visceral"", as you say, that they're able to do this. it's because they started to be raw, only "feather and bone" (and by that i mean just suzanne's acoustic guitar and vocals), capturing the essence of something, that they can ask for, for example, the industrial sound of "99.9F degrees" or the orchestrations of "beauty & crime".
     
    i believe songs such as suzanne's ask for what they need themselves. think of "tom's diner": it just needed to be sung, but within it was this (maybe endless) territory of ways to be moulded into (maybe also endless) versions of itself. keep in mind the latest version of it suzanne did with her band, which i believe you've already heard. and on "beauty & crime" remember the studio version of "frank & ava" while listening to the acoustic version suzanne did of it on the bbc radio 2 show last wednesday. i hope i made my point clearer and, of course, i meant that word as a compliment.
     
    thank you both for your engaging words.
     
    love, fátima
     
     

    chance is the only thing that doesn't happen by chance
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