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As Girls Go

Last post Tue, May 27 2008, 2:37 PM by NIckiUK. 63 replies.
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  • Re: As Girls Go
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     Thu, Nov 20 2003, 5:18 PM
    i am just replying to the post and i don't want people to think i am gay for posting in this particular discussion.

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     Thu, Nov 20 2003, 6:46 PM
    There is no actual list, and I stopped counting. I made a joke that we were making this a "coming out" thread, cause such a thing should be in the lounge. Transvestism is a different thing from homosexuality in the first place, and this thread should be to discuss as girls go. Cause then people might victimise other people saying they're NOT gay, which could be misinterpreted as the "denial"-fable.

    Spikey
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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 5:37 AM
    Oh well I'm number 18 or 19 or whatever. But please don't think I'm straight...:-)

    This song actually has particular meaning because my godmother used to be a man, in a whole lifetime before I was born. She and my mom are close friends and she's an absolutely wonderful person. I love the slightly irreverent feel this song has, I feel SV is telling a story but she's not judging, and as she says it makes no difference.
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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 1:00 PM
    Oh dear, if I post to this thread will people think I own a computer? That I can read? That I listen to Suzanne Vega? That I'm sarcastic?

    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." --From Hamlet (III, ii, 239)
  • Re: As Girls Go
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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 2:36 PM
    Worse! Now people are thinking that you read Shakespeare! I wouldn't want people to think such a thing about me!

    J.C.

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  • Re: As Girls Go
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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 4:17 PM
    i didn't say i have a problem of people thinking i was gay. i would prefer it they didn't.

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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 5:28 PM
    Well Sgurd, why did you respond to this post *at all*? Especially since you seem to have nothing to say about the song?
    Geez.
    Brady
  • Re: As Girls Go
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     Fri, Nov 21 2003, 8:40 PM
    C'mon yous guys.

    ~adopts overly mother-hen voice~
    Nobody wants this molehill to become more than just a molehill. Nobody -needs- the last word.

    (picturing the above accompanied by me standing with fists on hips is free of charge, but not recommended)
  • Re: As Girls Go
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     Sat, Nov 22 2003, 6:00 AM
    OK, but I think this whole discussion still has me confused ... Is Sgurd the one who's gay?
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     Sun, Nov 23 2003, 5:24 AM
    Oh come on, Bob ! That's absgurd.
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     Fri, Feb 13 2004, 3:35 AM
    I've always liked this song because...well...I'm transgendered. Although I don't make a "really good girl" most of the time.

    I like in that it's one of the few songs that's TG related, that isn't really silly, or shocking. More of a "Wow, I've never seen you as a girl before" or "I almost didn't know you were a man...."

    Many many years ago (back when I was completely ignorant of copyright laws :-) ) I planned to have one of my TG characters sing the song in my comics.
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     Sat, Feb 21 2004, 2:52 AM
    I personally love this song as it speaks not to just the drag queens, but also for the many transsexuals who live and work in society. I always kind of thought of this song more as one of those conversations with someone who you know who is transgendered who is being asked which side of the line they happen to be?. I have many friends who have come out and or transitioned in the workplace at various jobs. Tsong seems to bring to light the open mindedness that Suzanne shows through this song that is needed everyday in life and in the workplace. It sets aside the predjudice that some people have and asks the questions in that 'skirting with what to ask' light which I have seen in people before in those situations. Kudos to Suzanne on another great song !
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     Sat, Feb 21 2004, 10:31 AM
    I've also liked this song since I first heard it. The singer obvoiusly considers the subject a friend, and the song has a good-natured teasing to it. There is a sort of unconditional love portrayed in the attitude of the song that I really admire. The music is really upbeat, and it sounds like two good friends having a conversation in a dance club.
    The main reason I've always liked this song, though, is that it can be used as a metaphor for acceptance in any form, and that the person is valued for who they are, not the shell they inhabit.
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     Wed, Feb 25 2004, 12:51 PM
    "As Girls Go" has always been one of my favorite of Suzanne's repetoire. Yes, that was me in the Third Row screaming lustily for the song, although just at that time the band closed with "Small Blue Thing."

    I always thought "As Girls Go" was the diary of a pre-op male to female transsexual. As is Suzanne's want from the first album on, she positions herself as the observationist, sometimes the voyeur, but tactile images of "blood" and "bones" and "knives" and "teeth" predominate over emotions. "Small Blue Thing" is a good example of that, as is "As Girls Go." It doesn't matter to Suzanne "which side of the line" the protagonist of the song is on "at any given time," but that does not quell her desire for information; "Did you ever keep the date with the steel side of the knife?"

    My (longwinded, Suzanne would be more concise) point is that SV consitently writes from a very different perspective from other singer/songwriters, who tend to be more emotionally centered.

    Speaking of being a trooper, bravo to Suzanne for her performance at the Oyster Bay Arboretum! My fiancee and I attended, and other than the fact that the opening act was unusually long, there was no sign at all that Suzanne was in any physical distress. I DID notice a few flubbed lyrics, but I chalked that up to road weariness.
    I was also glad to hear that the Froom produced songs were not abandoned; in some cases tapes were used ("Blood Makes Noise") and the CDs remain audiophile delights, but Suzanne is entitled to cherry pick her favorites
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     Thu, Apr 01 2004, 5:24 AM
    Fellah's, I read this entire thread. I've got to speak up and say there are at least five straight men world-wide who dig this song, and I'm one of them.

    The first time I heard this song, I knew exactly who it was about... ME! I was 23 and I was the 29th century male, so deeply exploring my feminine side in an effort to understand women, that I was in fact, for a good year of my life, a girl.

    The first time I heard this song was in fact, the defining moment of my life, because not only did it speak to me, but it gave me a boner, thank you very much!

    There are more shades of sexuality under the sun than are dreampt of in any philosophy!

    This song is one from a very boyish girl to a very girlish boy. She is teasing him, and why? Because they both get off on the gender bend.

    Anyway, for the record, I'm proud to be at least semi-gay!

    -Pat
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