I think Suzanne has a winter fetish going for herself. Alot of her songs have connotations to winter or autumn. I love that shit 100 autumns max for you in your lifetime, but she is writing tracks about her own, and soothen yours

Great!!! love ya, Suzie!!

Well. I always think of the debut album as winterspecific. It has a lot of winterconnotations because of words, and pictures of Suzanne.

It's cold, all the songs on there are stripped from every emotion, a cool backbone she gives us on which you fantasize. It's like that in the winter, everything is cold, and the warmth is inside the people and inside the houses alone.

I'm with you on this one Spikes.

Of course we know that when Suzanne did the debut album she had more than 20 songs to choose from. They had been written in different years, so the album didn't exactly arise as a concept.

But I have always that winter feeling you talk about. Maybe it's from the strong effect Cracking always had on me.

José Carlos

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yes, i agree with you three. just like jc said there isn't a "concept" to the debut album, but there's definitely a mood, an attitude and a fear running through it.

all the characters turn within themselves to protect something vital in them because they fear the cold might freeze it. they're afraid of "hit(ting) the Deep Freeze", and therefore of becoming motionless and even more alienated and apart.

with warmth,
fátima

I know it was not a concept. Still, the songs seem icey somehow. Listening to Cracking and Freeze Tag, I always feel like I feel outside on a cold winter afternoon. Neighborhood Girls, I can see the icestars on the window in the subway of two ladies talking to each other, and they wear warm winter coats. I sit behind them and eavesdrop on their conversation. See where I'm coming from?

Spikey.

P.S.: I SO knew that JC and Fatima were bound to reply to this thread. Heh, nice to know you kind of know people that hang around here.

P.S.: I SO knew that JC and Fatima were bound to reply to this thread. Heh, nice to know you kind of know people that hang around here.

A warming feeling contrasting with the coldness that comes through the walls from outside, right Spikey?

J.C.

"Music melts all the separate parts of our bodies together."
--Anais Nin

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Which wall? A Roger Waters wall or a physical wall? I wonder...probably both.

Spikey

"which wall?", you ask, spikey. i can't reply for jc, but "probably both" or even definitely both would be my answer. i see where you're coming from very well in regard to the feeling of these songs.

thank you, jc, for the beautiful quote from anais nin. in our particular case, suzanne's music melts away distance and cultures, and joins us "somewhere deep within", somewhere we all know and where our "eyes are gathered into one", "in the warm" of recognition and togetherness.

much love,
fátima

Heh, "somewhere inside of us we must be similar if not the same".

I would think that we can take into consideration the evniornment in which these songs were gestated. These songs where not written the eve before the recording session. She had been singing them around for a while. Before that she had worked them up as songs. Before that she had ideas that she had written in her journals. So, looking back to the era when the songs where first conceived, we find it was many years before the album came out.

Thus I will argue, it is important to consider the era and the location. 1970's, Neew York. The city was having a very difficult era. Crime was at shocking levels, the economy was bad, the subways had horrid amounts of graffiti, with the glut of office space there were many empty buildings. New York was not the same place as we think of it now. It was in a winter of it's own. With a melancholy streak to start with and living in what was then a poorer neighborhood, can we not see where Suzanne is coming from?

Looking back, the album does feel very wintery. She acknoledges the situation, unlike others who try to ignore or defie the circumstances in which they find themselves.

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